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| spaniel hunting | Expert Opinion By Ken Roebuck
ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIELS
— For Hunting & Field Trialing
— For the Show Ring
— Or Both
(published in Spaniels In The Field)
( Republished with permission of the author and GUNDOG magazine)
Let's be honest. Everyone of us could plead guilty at one time or
another to pontificating on a subject to which the old adage, "A
little knowledge is a dangerous thing" could be justifiably applied.
Some of us more often than others. It's certainly relevant to this
article, which is about a problem long overdue for an airing.
Because I happen to breed and train English springers, I am often
contacted by hunters for advice about them as (I am sure) are others
who have elected to pursue this somewhat singular way of life. Questions
relate mainly to the suitability of springers for a variety of hunting
situations and usually there will be something asked about their dispositions
too.
It sometimes transpires, however, that the caller has already sought
advise elsewhere from someone who, it becomes patently clear, has
little or no idea what they are talking about. One can detect from
what is said that the person consulted probably never owned a genuine
hunting bred springer or even shot over one.
Sometimes a caller will say that the "Guru told them springers
tend to be high-strung and nervous and that they are inclined to be
snappy and consequently untrustworthy around children. He may also
express the opinion that they would be well advised to consider some
other breed. Damage control is therefore called for. Imparting the
true facts takes time and patience — a great deal of both.
The most recent caller to say he was told this lives in California.
As he was skeptical, he decided to call me to ask whether this was
really so. About three weeks before that, a hunter from Kansas telephoned
with a similar tale to relate. So that did it. I decided it was time
to do some finger pointing and straight talking. Shortly I'll tell
you who the oracles were who bestowed upon these two hunters the benefit
of their knowledge of the breed.

This state of affairs arises as a direct result of ignorance in respect
to the differences that exist between springers that are bred specifically
for hunting and field trials and those that are bred strictly for
the show ring. They are about as much alike as chalk and cheese. They
are so diverse with regard to breeding and (consequently) purpose
that I would calculate the odds of a Dual Champion springer ever being
made up again (on either side of the Atlantic) as a million to one
against — and that's a con-servative estimate. They are so different
in appearance and temperament that, in my opinion (and that of others),
they could now, quite justifiably, be registered as different types.
If they were, a kennel club notation on the registration certificate
to indicate what type the dog was would be of considerable help to
those who know little about the breed but who are seeking a pup for
hunting. But, of course, they are not registered by type nor are they
ever likely to be. A springer spaniel is a springer spaniel insofar
as the American (and British) Kennel Clubs are concerned whether they
be from hunting or show lines. Type is of no interest to either of
them. In fact it is highly probable that the majority of those employed
at both establishments are unaware that such differences exist. What
is of far greater interest and importance to both is the revenue accrued
as a result of performing all the services they demand must be utilized
in order that trials or shows may be entered or the product of litters
may be registered — to mention but a few!
Some breeders of show springers possess the integrity to tell inquirers
who are searching for a potential gun dog that theirs are not the
type they should consider. They will even go to the trouble to advise
on who to contact. There are many others, however, who possess no
such scruples, who will glibly tell anyone, "Sure our pups will
hunt. They're springer you know. They all do." This, despite
the fact that if the breeder concerned was handed a shotgun, he (or
she) probably wouldn't know which end to put the shells in let alone
recognize a gun dog even if they saw one coming down the pike carrying
a pheasant.
How about this: While working on this article, a friend telephoned.
He's a keen hunter who owns two spaniels, one of which he obtained
from us. We chatted about how the hunting had been this past season
and how his dogs were coming along. Quite by chance, no mention having
been made at this stage about what I was working on (hand on heart)
he said that two hunters he knew had recently bought pups and, despite
the advice he had given them, they had been "duped" (his
term not mine) into buying show dogs.
The facts regarding temper-ament are as follows: Tem-perament problems,
when they arise, tend to do so mainly in show-bred springers. There
are no ifs, but's or maybe's about this. Certain strains or lines
(call them what you will) in the springer show world are known to
produce unstable temperaments. Not occasionally - frequently - and
the show fraternity knows this to be so.
Every year we have (on average) two or three springers from show breeding
brought by their owners to be tried for the field. I never refuse
to try a dog because it's from show lines because occasionally one
gets one that makes a good gun dog. For this reason I have always
been willing to give them the chance to show what they are made of.
One usually finds however that show breeding tends to produce either
lack of drive to hunt or lack of interest to retrieve - or both.
Of the five we took in over the past two years, only one made the
grade, two lacked all desire to work, but, worst of all, the remaining
two had unstable temperaments. One of them would have bitten if given
the opportunity when being taken from the kennel or the car cage.
And these were spaniels for heaven's sake. Dogs that since time immemorial
have been recognized for their kind, gentle nature. What a state of
affairs.
The other day I was contacted by a reader of this magazine who lives
in Virginia. He told me that he owns a springer with which he hunts
duck, dove and grouse. He commented that the dog tends to work slowly
and (note this) that it was inclined to be aggressive towards him
at times. I asked him what the breeding was. He said he suspected
that it was out of show lines but as he didn't understand pedigrees
he wondered if I could confirm this. I was able to after he had read
it out to me.
In the seventeen years we have been training here in America, we have
never had a springer from genuine hunting breeding turn nasty towards
us. I am not suggesting that there aren't some somewhere - there must
be. It would be foolish of me to suggest otherwise. I'm simply saying
that we haven't encountered one and we have a considerable number
of spaniels through our hands every year.
If any springer reacted aggressively toward me at any time under any
circumstances it would get its marching orders forthwith. I wouldn't
tolerate it. I have been bitten once only by a gun dog during the
forty-five years I have been involved with them (a number of times
by German Shepherds!). It occurred about eight or nine years ago and
it was a springer that had come in to be tried for the field. It had
been with us, but one morning while I was slipping its leash on it
bit me on the hand, and it meant it. I had to have it stitched. The
dog was out of show breeding. At my request, the owner collected it
the next morning and I took the opportunity to give him a little sound
advice as to the course the dog's future should take.
The problem that hunters are up against when considering what breed
of gun dog would best suit them is that they often unwittingly approach
the wrong people. If it's a springer they have in mind, then they
should talk to hunters who own and work them because their opinion
(for or against) are valid ones. If they talk with hunters who use
other breeds and who have never owned or hunted over a good spaniel,
then their opinions are irrelevant. If they ask the advice of those
who breed show dogs then their opinions can be, at best, misleading
unless (as I mentioned earlier) the person concerned has the integrity
to admit that the chances of getting a good gun dog from the type
he or she breeds is remote.
Veterinarians are among the worst offenders. It was two vets who gave
the callers from California and Kansas the benefit of their knowledge
on the subject.
Most vets, other than those who hunt, and there must be precious few
who do, are quite unaware of this business of "type" among
springers. The majority they deal with are likely to be pets from
show breeding. Why? Because there are far more of them than the hunting
type. If a vet isn't involved in hunting or field trialing or showing
springers then he's bound to be unaware of the split that took place
earlier this century and of the separate roads the hunting and show
people took which they have never deviated from in an effort to produce
the "type" of dog that best suited their interests. Despite
this, it is apparent that some vets are prepared to give their evaluation
of the breed when asked. An evaluation based only on their dealings
with them while they are on their examination tables - a time when
any dog is bound to be under stress and affected by nerves. On opinions
formed as a result of casual contact with, primarily one type, which,
when expressed would be accepted by those who know no better as being
characteristic of the breed as a whole.
When I hand over a springer pup to its new owner I point out that
its tail was docked (by me) when it was four days old. I do so because
traditionally, the hunting type springer has half to two thirds of
its tail left on. Why do I explain this? Because often over the years
I have been told by puppy owners that when taken for a shot, the vet
had commented that the' pup's tail either (a) hadn't been docked,
or (h) was too long. Why would a vet say this? Because (as I said
earlier) they deal mainly with pets from show lines which, when docked,
are left with only a short stub of a tail which they (understandably)
presume is the standard for all. I have twice had vets telephone me
to query the situation. At least they took the trouble to check with
me which I give them credit for. I think, however, that these points
are significant.
Some veterinarians are quick to put pen to paper in order to criticize
any hunter who has the temerity to write to the sporting press to
express an opinion about canine medical matters. In some cases justifiably.
The other side of the coin, however, is that the veterinary profession
should take the trouble to acquaint themselves about this business
of "type" in sporting breeds - spaniels in particular. If
they did, they would be able to give an objective answer when asked
about them.
Potential springer owners beware. Many self-styled experts lurk out
there who, at the drop of a hat, are more than willing to tell you
all they know about the breed - which may be precious little. My advice
is to let what they have to say go in one ear and out the other. Then
ask an experienced trainer, hunter or field trialer of springers because
they know what they are talking about. You may also care to write
to Art Rodger, 10714 Escondido Drive, Cincinnati, Ohio 45249, who
publishes a regularly updated list of breeders of hunting type English
springers in the U.S. This way you can maybe contact someone close
to home.
Oh, and lastly, confine your questions to veterinarians to medical
ones - unless the vet concerned happens to hunt springers too.
Editor's note: Ken Roebuck is a professional gun dog trainer and the
author of two books, Gun Dog Training Spaniels and Retrievers and
Gun Dog Training Pointing Dog

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